Stephanie and Abdirashid tell about their experiences with the national blackface tradition Black Pete (“Zwarte Piet”). Both of them have been teased and called Black Pete (Zwarte Piet). “I have a terrible history with Black Pete”, Abdirahman reflects before sharing a painful story of his father being called Black Pete by children in a busy mall while no one intervened to defend him. Stephanie: “Oh you don’t need paint”, children kept calling his father Black Pete at 5 minutes in a mall, people around him didn’t say anything. Stephanie, a ‘plus size’ model, shares her painful experiences as well:
“Besides the fact that is has the same image as Golliwog and blackface and stuff it is rooted in slavery. But also, people don’t understand why it really hurts, and it really hurts. When children see me walking down the street they will tell me I am Zwarte Piet, I am Black Pete. During the 5th of December when Sinterklaas takes place I think twice about wearing red lipstick because people will look at me and think about or even tell me I look like Black Pete. It needs to stop it really needs to stop.”
Abdirahman discussed the social-cultural context of the lack of historical awareness in relation to Black Pete and says: “We don’t have a history of blackface being seen as a dehumanizing factor of black people mainly because the opinion of black people is not valued.”
The conversations furthermore touch upon topics ranging from citizenship, undocumented migrants, veganism, patriarchy, Islamophobia and many others of the complex experience of being black in Europe. As Paul Gilroy wrote “to be both European and black requires some specific forms of double consciousness” Check out the strolling series here:
Episode 3 with Stephanie Afrifra
Episode 2 with Abdirashid
Episode 1 with Ramona